From Love Scams to Inclusive Churches: A Journey Through Modern Issues

All right, folks, this podcast episode does sound a little bit different because it was actually a live show on my Zephyr Hills edition of the Jose show, so that's why it's going to sound a little different. But anyway, without further ado, here we go. Hello.

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Welcome to another exciting episode of the Jose show. I am your host, jose Roldan Jr, and my guest with me today is my co-host, victor. All right, let's stop that. Okay, welcome to another exciting episode of the Jose show and the Jose show podcast. Yeah, that was on a loop and I meant to unhook it, my bad. Anyway, sorry about being 10 minutes late, but me and Victor want to welcome you to our live show, and it's been a crazy, i tell you, technology is just kind of crazy. I love Spring Yard, but I don't know if you're lately, it's been kind of difficult connecting. I know there's a other few different streaming services out there that I'm going to definitely try to see you know how they work. It's just when I do it, i have to do a practice run on a separate page that nobody knows about, so I can kind of test it out. I've got some video going, but I don't know if the video is actually going to work, because it worked earlier, but then again I don't know. Okay, so the topic that we're going to be talking about tonight is romance scammers. Now, if you have Plex on your Roku device or your smart TV, check out Gray People and my friend, dennis Mallon, who lives here in Florida. He is one of the main actors in this film. Check it out. It's a funny film, it's a different take and I think you will definitely will like it. How's it going, victor?

It's going pretty well Now. I've heard of obviously regular scammers, but what explain to me what is a romance scammer Like? how does that work out, okay?

So you know, when I talk about stuff here, i am no expert. By no means I mean to be an expert. You have to have like a 1000 hours of something. But this is something that has happened to three people that I know personally. And what I mean? no, personally, i know personally. It's not like somebody that's on my Facebook, that that are just somebody that I see casual. These people, i literally know them personally And basically what a romance scammer is. They look at your Facebook or your social media, and especially for women. Now, i'm sure it happens to men, but it seems like it happens to women most of the time. And let me bring up this next slide. So these people, i do not know, i just took them from the internet. You got a young guy with an older woman and a younger woman with an older guy. Okay, these pictures are just for illustration only. I'm sure this is two lovely couples that are deeply in love. I have no idea, you know so, but definitely what happens is if a woman or a male have a single on their social media and it's mostly Facebook, unless you put it to not married, well, obviously that means you're single. Or if you put married, i mean it could happen anyway. So they see this scammer, see this, and sometimes, on, you can even get it through WhatsApp. It's just, it's phishing. These people fish and they send you a text message or they see your Facebook and blah, blah. So they send you a Facebook message and say, hey, you know beautiful, how are you doing? And you know, i've noticed some of your pictures and you're very beautiful and this and that, and you know, then they kind of woe you over And it seems like it's happening to more of the older adults that may not have the brain capacity anymore. And don't get me wrong, i'm not saying they're dumb, it's just sometimes they're gullible, they're lonely, they will believe anything, no matter what, and you know. So. Then they start talking to you. They kind of woe you over And you know they may not do it right away, but eventually they will say, hey, you know, i want to come meet you, which is definitely a big red flag. And then they're asking for personal information, like possibly your address, your banking account information, your social security number. And then, you know, once they, once you get comfortable with them, they start asking more questions And then they want to ask for money. So I do know that one of them here recently was asked for money and they did send money And thank goodness it was kind of stopped So it never got to them, but stuff like that. So when they start asking for money, i mean you got to think in your mind why would they ask me for money? You know, because they're going to give you this. Oh, i don't have internet, my car's broke, i'm going to be, they're going to throw me out. I don't have money for groceries, bull crap. I mean, you know, let me play, let me play a sound effect for that. Bull crap. Did you hear that?

one Did you hear.

Not that one.

I wonder why you can't hear my sound effects.

That's kind of weird. Anyway, what do you think about all this, Victor?

Honestly, that's pretty heartless, though in my opinion I mean, it sounds like any other scammer as well too, you know make you feel pretty much in a way, except for this one. Like you said, it's romance, so they kind of woe you into it versus the other ones a little bit more. I could say hostile or violent. Yeah.

Yeah, so some of the older people definitely. You know when you're I get it. You know when, before I got remarried, i was lonely too. But you know you can't. You can't give in to people like this because they can literally. You know, if you give them your bank and account information, it's like a portal to hell. They can literally suck you dry. And then what it's time for you to pay your bills. Oh my god, what happened to my money? I don't have my money and oh my power from the down under. Hey, vidal, what's up? buddy Vidal is one of my acting friends. I met him about three weeks ago in Tampa. Pretty nice guy. I mean this guy's super, he's awesome, he's very friendly. Love this guy and he's got another one Haha. Well I'm in need. Oh, she's a gold digger. Yeah, they got some gold diggers out there. Trust me, i've. I have one with, let's just say, one of my friends, and Let's just say I had to run the gold digger off. So, but yeah, definitely, romance gaming is no good man. You just got to really be careful out there. I mean, in this day and age with technology. You know, 40 years ago We didn't have any of this stuff. So I'm pretty sure there was romance scams back then. But I don't really know how they worked, unless unless you had a pen pal and You were writing back and forth. That's probably a different story. But nowadays, with social media, anybody can be duped, even even the brightest people, you know.

So it's actually really crazy out there. I mean, i would probably put it under romance scam. I know, i know my wife had her Instagram hacked, like her older Instagram hack. It was full of all her like baking stuff that she used to do and Started getting. I started getting weird messages from her. I'm like wait a minute, this don't seem right. So, right in front of my wife at the dinner table, you know, i kind of shoot a message back or whatever, and They try to play off like no, it's me and your wife. I'm like it's funny because you're sitting right in front of me and your hands aren't texting on your phone.

Yeah, as you know, it's like the other day. I have two phone numbers. I have a personal phone number and I have a Google phone number And my Google number, you know, and it worked for me to keep it. I do have to use it from time to time. So you know, i'll send my wife like a little message and hey, baby, you know whatever. And the other day she asked me Hey, do you have another number? And I go no, just the Google in my personal, you know those. I said why She goes. Well, somebody sent me a message and said, hey, babe, blah, blah, this or that, and I go, that's not for me. I said I got WhatsApp. I said, but I only use that for, you know, my youngest daughter and my grandbaby, because sometimes messenger is not always working, so they'll do the FaceTime or whatever with WhatsApp, which I think WhatsApp is crap, even though it's owned by Facebook. But sometimes that's the alternative when messenger is kind of going wonky. And you know, and not only romance scams, there is so much scams. I remember back in the early days of the internet I would get emails and hello, my name's Prince Abadubi and I am from. Nigeria and police. in order to keep my kingdom, please send me $10,000,. you know? Okay, bull crap, I ain't gonna send you enough. And I remember back in the day they used to have Yahoo chats And I'd have people say hey, can I have you? They would just ask you for your banking account number. And I go, oh, oh, really, okay, hold on, So I'd give them, you know, like a fake number, like 3312, blah, blah, blah, and I would press it And they're like, oh, thank you. And I go do you think I'm that stupid to give you my personal information? Do you think I'm gonna give you my banking account information so you can take my money? I don't think so, hombre. I mean, i don't do that crap. Have you ever done that or have that done to you before?

I wouldn't say through that, but I had someone trying to trap me in Instagram messaging and stuff. But I gave them the address to the White House and said that I'm from the lost city of Atlantis.

That's 1400 Pennsylvania Avenue Man. if you don't buy one by heart, that's something wrong.

Yeah, that's funny. That's what I do If I feel like it's gonna be a scam and they ask for that stuff, I'm like, okay, you know what? I feel like I'm in a pretty good mood. That's the address I send them.

So One of the things. Okay, let me add this to the stream and I'll bet you it's not gonna work. Okay, let me see if I can get this to work.

In the movie's golden age, the 30s through the 50s, the kiss was such a force of nature that it had to be accompanied by a glorious sunset, as in Gone with the Wind, or by crashing waves on a Hawaiian beach, as we see, with Bert Lancaster and Deborah Carr smooching in from here to eternity, or on the Riviera with fireworks A pretty obvious sexual metaphor, but a glorious counterpoint to the kiss being shared by Grace Kelly and the movie's all-time romantic leading man, carrie Grant. The strangest things can bring two beings together like a strand of spaghetti. In Lady and the Tramp, lady and the Tramp are our youngest couple, except in dog's years. But the second one would be Henry Thomas and Erica Oleniek in ET. Et, the extraterrestrial is at home watching a wonderful scene from The Quiet Man, when which John Wayne seizes Marino, harren a storm and kisses her. So she'll never forget it. Henry Thomas feels this, the vibes from ET, takes the beautiful blonde child and gives her a smooch they will never forget. Sometimes two people create their own mold to help us in cinema magic. Here are the preposterously beautiful Elizabeth Taylor and Montgomery Clift, practically nose-to-nose together in Gigetta, close-ups in A Place in the Sun. They talk themselves practically into an orgasm as they get closer and closer.

Okay, i didn't realize that. I didn't listen to the whole video. We don't need to be talking about orgasms here. Anyway, let's remove that Anyway. So I was supposed to play that before the intro to the romance scams, but anyway, you get it. I mean, you know, these people want to romance you, they want to woo you over Man. It's not Hollywood, it is a pile of dog poop.

Okay can we say that Oh?

okay, Big ol' poop, I like that. Oh man, Okay so anyway. So just be careful out there. I know Victor agrees with me on that. Just don't fall for this crap.

Yeah, if it's too good to be true, it most definitely is.

Exactly. And now you have all these apps, bumblebee and plenty of fish and and What's that mingle? I can't remember. No, what's the? yeah, christian mingle, yet Christian mingle timber.

And all that mad dot com Yep all of that's calm farmers.

So just you know, just be careful out there, because you don't want to get duped. Definitely you don't want to get killed, because there has been people that have been killed from these dating apps and stuff like that.

So you know, whatever is one of the worst ones for that.

Yeah, I was on Tinder back when I before I'm at my wife. And you know, i didn't like the whole concept of swipe left or swipe right. You know cuz, like I don't know, just I talked to one person and then they're like, when I finally wanted to talk to them in person, They're like no, i talked on the phone too much. I don't feel like talking to you. Bye, bye, bye.

Bye, i was out of here.

So you know, it's like I talked to you. No, oh, my god, She just started screaming. I mean like okay, anyway, so just be careful out there folks. So let me bring up this back to the stream and Let's see. Okay, so let's see if we can get this is not gonna work, so let me. Let me try to get this to work. If not, okay, so we're gonna talk Jesus revolution. So bear with me one second and I will actually bring up the video. I've got to get the link. You know it's, it's, it's funny, because this actually worked earlier and it's not gonna do it. So we're gonna stop the screen chair and We're gonna leave that. We're gonna do this Screen share. No, that's. I don't want force in the world. It seems like nothing is working. Let me bring this up. All right, folks, just bear with me. So let me get this video. Sorry, folks, it's technical knowledge and it doesn't always work the way you want it There we go Okay, so check out this video. Hey square.

I am not a square. Think we should invite Greg this weekend.

What's this weekend I do it. These people are hippies, rebels against old-fashioned authority.

I think these kids need help. The need is a bath.

You're passing judgment on people you know nothing about.

Maybe that's why your church is so empty and God works in here, brings me a hippie, i'll ask him what it's all about, because I did not understand. This house has a very good vibe. There is an empire generation Just in all the wrong places. If you want to reach my people, you need to speak to them in a language They understand. I bring them in. I mean, there's my job. I can only walk through doors open to us in your church. That's a door that shut. You Probably noticed. We have some guests here today. I'd like you to meet my new friends. Welcome. They don't belong here. Half of money weren't used. They're saying the new Shag carpet. They need our help. If you feel like you're misunderstood and judged, you will find forgiveness and freedom right here. That was awesome. Now that door is open anytime, and if there are some who don't like that, well then that door works both ways. All right, pastor, let's begin.

I was almost done with this. I think you did with nobody else.

This thing that we found, i feel like I belong, you're gonna need a bigger church.

Your country is a dark and divided place, but now as hope, and it's spreading. This is your home and I want you to tell all your friends about it.

Okay, okay, okay, so let me remove that from the stream. Okay, jesus revolution. So I've heard lots of good things about this this movie up. So you know me going to church literally since the day I was born, pretty much 51 years. I kind of had a hiatus for maybe a year or two because I kind of backslid and I know, victor, you've gone to church before as well, correct?

Yeah, i have. I mean, you know it's. It was Struggle for most. I didn't go most of my life at all, but for the past I'd say Seven years have been kind of pretty consistent.

That's good. Now, kelsey grammar, i believe he's a very good actor and You know, let me just, let me just put it this way You know, they're talking about the hippies back then and a lot of churches Today. It's happening today and I'm sure it happened way back then as well. They, they only want the elite. That's just. This is my opinion, this is just my term. So, um, you know, if, if christians get offended, i don't give a crap. If non christians get offended, i don't give a crap. I'm not gonna bow down to anybody. But what happens with churches nowadays and actually my pastor was talking about this um, you know, a bum comes in off the street And automatically we want to like, uh, you know we're looking at them like dude, why are they here? Uh, what, you know, i don't want them to sit next to me, i don't want them to be near my children, and you know you're gonna get that with a lot of christians, and don't get me wrong, they shouldn't be like that. Um, you know, uh, the bible says come as you are. Um, you know now, obviously, and what I mean come as you are. You know, you got a guy off the street. His clothes are torn and torn and tattered and dirty. I understand it, but there's some out there that literally come as they are and and I've seen it And sometimes to me I think it's disrespect, because I've seen women come into church wearing micro minis and when they bend over, everybody smiles. So Come as you are, yes, but if you're gonna do that just to attract men, you know, you know, please don't bend over. I mean, you know what I mean. Sorry to me for the screen, but anyway. Um, so from what I understand what this movie is, basically, you gotta come as you are. People need to come into church date. They need to feel wanted. Uh, they need to feel loved. Um, don't turn them away just because they're different than you. I know, back in the day when I was growing up, um, everybody wore like a three-piece suit and tie. Um, i know, my mom used to dress me in like a little mini suit and I hate wearing suits. I hate dressing up. I'm a t-shirt jean kind of guy. Um, usually on sundays, you know, i got a polo shirt and in jeans. And then on wednesdays, um, i do the same. I just wear a t-shirt on wednesdays, and then we have bible studies on monday nights I wear shorts and a shirt and um so stop, stop, you know, telling these people they can't come to church because they're different than you. They do everything that you do They go to the bathroom, they eat, they put their clothes on the whatever they put on their shirt. They do it exactly like you, and this is why a lot of churches have a hard time getting people to come in, because We're holier than you, we're mightier than thou. We don't want you to in our church.

Yeah, see, it's churches like that. That made that made people like me push away christianity in the past, you know. Yes, I mean like I'm still wearing my shirt clothes right now, my work boots, pair of blue jeans with a sewn up Hole and my black flannel. So you know, there you go.

I got my shorts on, but I'm a flannel guy.

I love flannel. This is one of those. Like any type of weather type t-shirt, it's amazing.

Well, yeah, being up being in uh, washington state, you definitely need flannel because you probably still have snow up there.

Yeah, it's actually just snowed like an hour or so ago.

Thank goodness I am in shorts now. Um, the the uh jesus revolution it's opening weekend earned 15 million and right now it's close to, i believe, over 30 million that it's earned. So go check this out. I know it's in your local theaters. And, um, also let me bring this up. So, on rotten tomatoes, um, it got a 60 percent, so I'm rocking the tomato meter 60 and the audience is 99 percent, so it seems like it actually has a pretty good Track record there. It seems like everybody likes to watch it, so definitely check it out. And then let me scroll here to the next one. Now, this is from my local theater, but check out your local theater. Um, currently, right now playing at my local theater, we have avatar of the way of the water two and 3d 80 for brady magic mics. Last dance, cocaine bear I've heard cocaine bear was pretty good. Um, demon slayer, kimetsu no yiba, whatever that is. Puss in boots, wish ant-man and wast quantamania, jesus revolution and operation fortune. And we have upcoming movies scream nicks, wow, champions, john wick, four john wick, chapter four, john, what's actually pretty cool. 65 with adam driver I want to see that one shazaam fury of the gods with uh uh zack levy I think that's his name, and big george, i guess that's about george forman. Wow, all right, i want to see the new screen movie man.

That looks pretty awesome.

Yeah, actually I have one of the actresses here from screams. She sent me some audio and it's weird because you can never hear. But uh, play the audio. Uh, uh, mic stroll. Okay, she just screamed victor can't. That's just. That's amazing why you can't. You should be able to hear all my stuff.

Yeah, i don't know why. I don't know why either, but anyway, all right folks.

Um, basically, and I think that's all I have, let me double check my yep. That's all I have. So let me remove that from the screen. Um, anyway, um, do you have anything else you want to say? victor?

No man, just uh, pretty much you know. going back to the Scamming topic, just be careful out there guys, like I said, too good to be true, more likely it is. Just you know, be very careful, don't hit on any random links that pop up on your phone. I know a lot of you probably get these random uh links that come through your text messages, facebook messages, ig, twitter, whatever You know. Just just be Be safe out there. Nobody wants to lose out on a bunch of money for no reason.

You know it's funny. You said that about text messages. Yesterday I was on a film set and My wife sent me this text. She goes is this true? and it was from the us postal service and it said Your package is lost because of no address. All of a click the link. And i'm like don't click the link and like it I accidentally click the link by accident. I'm like, and uh, so I hurry it up. I'm like shut my phone or like booted, rebooted my phone, and. But I looked it up and I told her. I said it's a scam. I said all I was gonna do is you collect the link. They're gonna give me some bogus website, they want you to put your checking account information in and boom, they got you now. Um, i'm open for calls. Um is Carrie and Yeager out there. Give me a call. Somebody needs to call man. I like people calling in to talk to us right, i, i get these.

I get, uh, been getting two different ones, uh, for the past few months. I'll be getting these links for about Oprah's new dietary pill or something like that. And then the other one is for uh, well, for some reason they assume that I have ed or something.

Um, Um, let me see, do I have hold on? do I have anything? oh, look at it and you can't even hear. That's kind of scary.

Yeah, but it's funny, i could get it. It's the two same ones. Oprah. Oprah's got some new stuff or whatever, and to help you lose weight or whatnot, and then of course you know, the the other one, I was like okay.

Yeah, definitely need to lose weight. I'm trying to walk. I got a fitbit watch I don't have it on right now because it's charging But, um, yeah, i'm trying to walk at least a mile a day, but sadly, today and yesterday, um, i have not walked a mile and I'm trying to make it up, but it's hard to make it up. So I would literally have to make up two miles tonight, but it's already Almost eight o'clock and I really don't feel like going out. I may go to, i could go to Walmart and just walking around in a, uh, in a nice big circle, yeah, but then they'd probably stop me and like what are you doing? Like dude, i'm exercising its air conditioning.

It's funny you say that there's this, there's this couple that shows up to the parking lot at the Walmart I work at and I've been outside, you know, training on the uh, forklift and stuff like that, setting up the parking lot for, like, the trees and the big bags of potting soil and fertilizer. And this couple shows up and parks in the far back corner, where we're at, by our trailers and they do what's called suicides and they use the parking spaces as their, as their locations and destination. If you don't know what a suicide run is, it's basically you sprint to a Location, stop, turn around, sprint back, but don't go all the way back and just keep getting smaller and smaller and smaller And then you reverse it and get farther and farther out. When you run, it's, it's exhausting watching them do it and I remember them doing them for footballs as a punishment.

Oh, reminds me of stadiums. Yeah, i have to run up and down the stairs for stadiums, oh yeah.

Leecher's leecher runs. Yeah, oh man, i hate it that I'm getting exhausted just thinking about it.

I know I'm tired now, just by you mentioning that, um, we used to have to do all that stuff too, back in the day when I was in school. We're doing the running back and forth, and then you start out long and then you kind of get short.

Um, yeah, and then you burst back and reverse it and get farther back with it and back to your normal spot.

You know what's um. You know it's actually funny. Um, i almost failed. Uh pe, how would you do that?

I had a feeling for that. See, i, i think my, i think my generation was the last ones that even had a pe uniform requirement. Uh you work for your school. Yeah, my uh pe class, they actually gave you Uh like a pair of shorts that was the school colors, with the school mascot printed on the on them, and You had a shirt with the same way pretty much.

Oh, wow, That's crazy. Yep, So um any new comic books lately that you bought.

No, no yet, but I'm actually gonna go make a run here, probably Not tomorrow, but I'm thinking Tuesday or Wednesday. I'm gonna go and buy some and see what. See what they got.

See, i've got this one. It's kind of I don't know if you could see it. Oh no, because I got the green screen, darn it. Ha, you can't see it because of the green screen, but it's called the green tempest. Um, but my friend Javier Lugo, he uh helped do this. He lives here in zephyr hills, nice. Yeah, it's actually a pretty thick book. It's 10 bucks. I don't know when part two is coming out, but uh, and it's really that thick cardstock Um paper. It's not like the the newspaper print.

Okay, so the page has got some good girth to them. I'm not good. I don't feel like it's gonna rip in your hands every time you try to turn the page.

Yeah, definitely, the pages do not have ed.

I laugh at those. I actually have them on my phone still, just because it's funny to look at. Not gonna lie, i've got to. I just got to be careful not to not to accidentally hit the link on that, but I think it's hilarious. It's like dude, like that's the dumbest scam you can pull on me. These guys don't do the research at all. All right, i'm in my early 30s. I ain't got those problems, all right. At least I hope I never do. That's why I try to stay healthy.

You gotta stay healthy.

Let me see if I can find something. Having having six kids man, I gotta stay young and healthy.

I tell you six kids. That's a lot of kids.

That's another reason. I know. I know how to be deep. Everything works just fine. A little too Well, actually, okay.

Yeah, um. No I haven't had any new comic books. I mean like I really collect the months, the only thing I was gonna get uh was florida man, which, um, we have it in our local comic book store, um, but other than that, i just I really haven't been reading that much. I've just been reading books and I'm reading one currently, but I can't remember the name, um. And then I got some of the board games and I just got to play them. I haven't played him. I haven't played a board game in probably six months, so I'm getting rusty, okay. But but anyway, all right, folks. Well, thank you for the uh everybody that listened I think we was up to like seven at one time or watched and listened. Um, we do appreciate it. Uh sorry, okay folks, so I decided to cut off that episode right there. It was a crazy episode. I was all over the board. So I do apologize, but this was done as a live show. I did have a caller call in but unfortunately the audio from her end wasn't coming into my Soundboard. But I do appreciate uh victor for being on and everybody that's listening and watching. Um, i greatly appreciate y'all And y'all have a good day.

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